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Erik van Straten<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jwildeboer</span></a></span> wrote:<br>"Dear <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Letsencrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Letsencrypt</span></a>, you helped secure millions and millions of servers"</p><p>They never did. Since Forward Secrecy is used (which is good), the one and only purpose of an X.509 certificate is to authenticate an entity, based on unique and *useful* identification of said entity.</p><p>Have a look at <a href="https://crt.sh/?q=968717.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">crt.sh/?q=968717.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> for the "usefulness" of identification (and waste of resouces).</p><p>Or what about <a href="https://crt.sh/?q=localbit.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">crt.sh/?q=localbit.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> which includes certificates for <a href="https://ww25.ww38.ww38.ww38.ww16.ww25.ww25.ww38.localbit.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ww25.ww38.ww38.ww38.ww16.ww25.</span><span class="invisible">ww25.ww38.localbit.com</span></a>? (I can give you zillions of examples like this).</p><p>Although a DV-cert may suffice for server to server communication (*), a domain name simply does not suffice for useful identification by humans.</p><p>Fix: <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113079966331873386" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat</span><span class="invisible">en/113079966331873386</span></a>.</p><p>(*) Certificate misissuances: <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/112914050216821746" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat</span><span class="invisible">en/112914050216821746</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DVcerts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DVcerts</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DomainValidation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DomainValidation</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BrowsersSuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BrowsersSuck</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DV</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/LetsEncrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LetsEncrypt</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GoogleIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GoogleIsEvil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigTechIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BigTechIsEvil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CloudflareIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudflareIsEvil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Phishing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Phishing</span></a></p>
Erik van Straten<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@0xF21D" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>0xF21D</span></a></span> : Cloudflare is evil anyway.</p><p>Cloudflare reverse-proxies (or -proxied):</p><p>-<br>cloudflare.com.save-israel·org<br>-<br>ns.cloudflare.com.save-israel·org<br>-<br>albert.ns.cloudflare.com.save-israel·org<br>-<br>sydney.ns.cloudflare.com.save-israel·org<br>-</p><p>I don't know whether any of these domains were or are malicious, but such domain names are insane; expect evilness.</p><p>See also:<br><a href="https://crt.sh/?Identity=save-israel.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">crt.sh/?Identity=save-israel.o</span><span class="invisible">rg</span></a></p><p>Tap "Alt" in the images for more info.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@malanalysis" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>malanalysis</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CloudflareIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudflareIsEvil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigTechIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BigTechIsEvil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AitM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AitM</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/MitM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MitM</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DV</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DVCerts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DVCerts</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DVCertsSuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DVCertsSuck</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BrowsersSuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BrowsersSuck</span></a></p>
Erik van Straten<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.nl/@ErikSchouten73" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ErikSchouten73</span></a></span> : dat soort adviezen werken in de praktijk *NIET* voor heel veel mensen.</p><p>En terecht, alles in dat soort adviezen kan door criminelen worden omzeild.</p><p>Het internet is verziekt door big tech.</p><p>Gegeven een domeinnaam moeten internetters, om te beginnen, exact begrijpen hoe domeinnamen in elkaar zitten (*), iets dat voor veel internetters onbegrijpelijke materie is.</p><p>En *áls* internetters dat al snappen, moeten zij op raadselachtige wijze zien te achterhalen of die domeinnaam van de *KENNELIJKE ORGANISATIE* is. Dat is allemaal informatie die door Big Tech wordt *ACHTERGEHOUDEN*.</p><p>(*) Denk ook aan phishing websites zoals:</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;https:⧸⧸lîdl·be/login</p><p>Zie de zojuist gemaakte screenshot van die URL (link - indien correct gespeld, dus met https:// en een punt erin) hieronder.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Phishing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Phishing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DVCerts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DVCerts</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigTechIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BigTechIsEvil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GoogleIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GoogleIsEvil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BrowsersSuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BrowsersSuck</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CABForumSucks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CABForumSucks</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CABForumIsCorrupt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CABForumIsCorrupt</span></a></p>
Erik van Straten<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@vwbusguy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>vwbusguy</span></a></span> : non-ACME certs suck big time.</p><p>However, now the internet has turned into a malicious phishing mess.</p><p>People can no longer determine who is responsible for a website, and nobody cares.</p><p>Google hosted fake websites (using ACME certs from Let's Encrypt) on their cloud servers called:<br>• cancel-google[.]com<br>• adsupport-google[.]com<br>• helpdesk-google[.]com</p><p>See (Dutch) <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113837934294209517" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat</span><span class="invisible">en/113837934294209517</span></a>.</p><p>Google also doesn't give a fsck about HSTS, see <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113856108585517842" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat</span><span class="invisible">en/113856108585517842</span></a>.</p><p>Worse, last year a phishing site with a domain name containing "google" was proxied by Cloudflare - and had a "GOOGLE TRUST SERVICES" DV certificate.</p><p>Did I mention that browsers suck and that Big Tech, making Big Money, is knowingly complicit to cybercrime?</p><p>And did I mention that certificates were not invented to please admins?</p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Phishing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Phishing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DV</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GoogleIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GoogleIsEvil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigTechIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BigTechIsEvil</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GTS</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BrowsersSuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BrowsersSuck</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AnonymousWebsites" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AnonymousWebsites</span></a></p>
Erik van Straten<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://comp.lain.la/users/7666" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>7666</span></a></span> : the TLS endpoint is a Cloudflare server (FISA section 702 tells Cloudflare to shut up about taps, exactly what Snowden warned for).</p><p>TLS has been reduced to "first mile encryption".</p><p>Let's Encrypt regularly issues certificates to fake sites (see "more information" in <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113079966331873386" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat</span><span class="invisible">en/113079966331873386</span></a>), and now they're going to kill OCSP.</p><p>Edited to add: we need solutions. The world can perfectly do without people like you and the EFF who claim that everything works fine, (probably unknowingly )helping big tech earn billions from cybercrime.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@eff" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>eff</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DVSucks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DVSucks</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DVIsMostlyUseless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DVIsMostlyUseless</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BrowsersSuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BrowsersSuck</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Phishing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Phishing</span></a></p>