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MusiqueNow :pride: ✡️ 🇵🇸 :anarchismhebrew:<a href="https://todon.eu/tags/JasmineCrockett" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JasmineCrockett</a> for U.S. President !!<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAmfV3LTkE" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAmfV3LTkE</a> <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/JasmineCrockett" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JasmineCrockett</a> Issues Fiery Rebuke of <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/GrandNaziParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GrandNaziParty</a> When Demanding <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/DueProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DueProcess</a> For <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/KilmarAbregoGarc%C3%ADa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcía</a> <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/CUTtheBULLSHITBringAbregoGarc%C3%ADaBACK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CUTtheBULLSHITBringAbregoGarcíaBACK</a> <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/FascistUSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FascistUSA</a>

Nonilex“This was an administrative error,” James Percival, a <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DHS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DHS</a> official appointed by <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a>, wrote to his colleagues on March 30. “(Not that we should say publicly.)”Tricia McLaughlin, DHS propagandist, said in a statement that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a>’s <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/deportation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deportation</a> was part of “a highly sensitive counterterrorism operation with national security implications.” [that’s some hardcore lying.]<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/FactCheck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FactCheck</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/TrumpLies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TrumpLies</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/CoverUp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CoverUp</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Rendition</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Constitution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Constitution</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/CivilRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CivilRights</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/HumanRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HumanRights</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DueProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DueProcess</a>

NonilexThe discussions do not directly capture conversations about the case inside the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/WhiteHouse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WhiteHouse</a> or at the level of the *relevant* <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/cabinet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cabinet</a> secretaries. But the documents show how <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> ofcls, from the start, tried to keep <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> out of the reach of the American <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judicial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judicial</a> system. <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> remains locked up in <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ElSalvador</a> despite <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/court" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#court</a> rulings demanding that the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#US</a> work to secure his release. And he got there in the 1st place through what everyone agreed was a mistake.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a>

NonilexIn the end, a snr <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DOJ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DOJ</a> lawyer, Erez Reuveni, who counseled bringing <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> back to the US, was fired for what AG <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/PamBondi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PamBondi</a> claimed was a failure to “zealously advocate on behalf of the United States.”Documents obtained by NYT laying out the debate among leading lawyers at the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/State" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#State</a>, <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Justice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Justice</a> & <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/HomelandSecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HomelandSecurity</a> Depts reveal new details of the admin’s early efforts to *develop a strategy* for a case that has become a major test of <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a>’s mass <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/deportation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deportation</a> effort.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/CoverUp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CoverUp</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a>

NonilexIn the days before the govt’s error became public, <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DHS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DHS</a> ofcls discussed trying to portray <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> as a “leader” of the violent street gang <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/MS13" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MS13</a>, even though they could find NO EVIDENCE to support the claim. They considered ways to nullify the original order that barred his <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/deportation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deportation</a> to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ElSalvador</a>. They sought to downplay the danger he might face in one of that country’s most notorious prisons.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/CoverUp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CoverUp</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Rendition</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/CivilRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CivilRights</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/HumanRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HumanRights</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DueProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DueProcess</a>

Nonilex‘Keep Him Where He Is’: How <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> Ofcls Were Sent Scrambling to Cover Their Asses in the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> CaseA Maryland man’s deportation to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ElSalvador</a> set off a fierce debate among ofcls of 3 cabinet agencies, despite agreement there had been a mistake.The Trump admin had deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia to a prison in El Salvador, even though a judge had issued a ruling expressly prohibiting that from happening.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Rendition</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/GiftArticle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GiftArticle</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/us/politics/trump-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-deportation.html?unlocked_article_code=1.I08.piTL.n27B6-Ia0Kk7&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/us/politics/trump-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-deportation.html?unlocked_article_code=1.I08.piTL.n27B6-Ia0Kk7&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare</a>

Nonilex<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/SCOTUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SCOTUS</a> recites the facts in detail, making clear that the government was about to deport hundreds of people to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ElSalvador</a> without ANY real opportunity to file <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/HabeasCorpus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HabeasCorpus</a> lawsuits in challenge, a direct violation of their previous order - & mentions <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a>.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/AlienEnemiesAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AlienEnemiesAct</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Rendition</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/StateSponsoredAbduction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#StateSponsoredAbduction</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Constitution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Constitution</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/CivilRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CivilRights</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/HumanRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HumanRights</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DueProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DueProcess</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/SeparationOfPowers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SeparationOfPowers</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/AbuseOfPower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseOfPower</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a>

NonilexCooper points to Wilkinson line in 4th Circuit opinion that the government's claim that there's nothing more to be done to facilitate return is "shocking" to the conscience & that indicates that there's <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#misconduct</a>Wrapping up, <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a> thanks everyone.She announces a 10 minute break before the parties go into a closed session to discuss some of the matters that remain under seal.End of 🧵 <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

NonilexGuynn: Govt's claim is that he is a member of MS-13 & he was removed on that basis, is basis of detention in <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ElSalvador</a> bc the Salvadoran govt believes he's MS-13 too<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a>: Maybe we need to table this for sealed hearing.Guynn agrees.Xinis: Anything else to talk about in open court before we get into the nitty gritty in close session? Cooper, for Abrego Garcia, interjects to raise issue about government <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#misconduct</a>.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

NonilexNow we're on the subject of whether <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> is being held pursuant to an extradition treaty (because of govt's claim that he's being held under domestic custody).Guynn says he thinks that info has been provided, he wasn't extradited.Guynn: Basis of him being detained in <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ElSalvador</a> also doesn't go to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#misconduct</a>.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

Nonilex<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a>: C'mon, you took over this case. You read that transcript.There's a back-&-forth between Guynn & Xinis. Guynn eventually agrees to assume for the sake of argument that Garcia was unlawfully detained/removed. But says even if that's assumed, there's still no showing of govt <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#misconduct</a> on that basis<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

Nonilex<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a> interjects: No, no, no. During that first hearing the government admitted that Mr. Abrego Garcia was unlawfully detained. There was an unlawful detention, she says.There's a looooooooong, awkward pause. Guynn says he can't speak to what happened at that hearing in which the govt admitted that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> was wrongfully removed, which led to the admin firing <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DOJ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DOJ</a> atty Erez Reuveni. <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

NonilexGuynn addresses the govt <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#misconduct</a> exception. Says not clear from Cooper's discussion what misconduct at issue. Failure to provide info? Failure to comply w/court's order? Etc<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a>: Or all of the above? [exactly]Guynn starts talking about the circumstances of <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a>'s removal. "That was an administrative error" that he was removed to a country he shouldn't have been removed to, but that doesn't mean there was misconduct.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

NonilexCooper: Only have ~30 docs that are relevant vs 500 that have been withheld based in part on <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeliberativeProcess</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privilege</a> The final factor is harm to the govt, which I think is for the government to show. They haven't filed affidavits or explained why disclosure would harm process, etcThat's it from Cooper on deliberative process. Guynn up to respond.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

NonilexAfter Cooper argues that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeliberativeProcess</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privilege</a> doesn't apply given <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#misconduct</a> by the govt, he turns to another exception: the "compelling need" exception.That squarely overrides the invocation of the privilege here, he tells Judge <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a>.Cooper: This discovery is relevant & important. Govt hasn't pointed to alternative sources of info. There's been no substance produced of information that's key & critical here.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

NonilexGuynn: Think would need to brief that. But I don't want to concede that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/intent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#intent</a> is at issue.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a> asks attorney for <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> to come up & address the "government misconduct" exception to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeliberativeProcess</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privilege</a>.[Because the privilege is not absolute & can be overcome by a showing of govt <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#misconduct</a>]Up for Abrego Garcia this time is Jonathan CooperCooper: From the beginning this has been a case about govt misconduct<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

Nonilex<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a>: Intent to facilitate, intent to comply w/my order.Guynn: When you refer to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/intent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#intent</a>, what are you referring to?Xinis: Can give you cases I've been thinking about. There's a proposition that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeliberativeProcess</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privilege</a> doesn't really apply when intent is at issue Gives hypo: re discrimination claim by fired employee. if decision making is privileged, can never get to the issue of wrongful termination.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

NonilexGuynn: That's why there are so many privileged documents here that's why hard to ID document custodians, etc. <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a>: Almost impossible to determine from the log on what basis you're claiming attorney client privilege. Eg, if you have 18 people CC'ed on an email. without more info, I can't assess. I don't believe the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeliberativeProcess</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privilege</a> is as broad in this case because the govt's intent is at issue.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

NonilexGuynn: The govt obviously had a dispute over what facilitate means<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a>: What's interesting about that is that you had to have the Fourth Circuit tell you that. "My decision wasn't good enough."Guynn says there's more context to set the stage but he thinks that would need a sidebar. There was question about what defendants had to do, should do, in response to court's order in this case. So lots of attorneys were involved.<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

NonilexRossman: If I gave your honor what I have of meaningful <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/discovery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#discovery</a>, it'd be nothing<a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xinis</a> announces that she wants to move on to discussion of the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeliberativeProcess</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privilege</a>. Wants to talk about the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> on that, then move the hearing under seal to discuss further.Guynn is up first to discuss. <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KilmarAbregoGarcia</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#immigration</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#law</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#judiciary</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trump</a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rendition</a>

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