Julien M.<span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://oc.todon.fr/@HygieneMentale" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>HygieneMentale</span></a></span> Merci pour le partage ! Ironie toutefois, la critique du <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lyssenkisme" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#lyssenkisme</a> faite dans cet interview n'a pas l'air complètement honnête sur l'état des connaissances historiographiques sur le sujet depuis plus de 10 ans, je le cite :<br><blockquote>le lyssenkisme, qui, dans l’Union soviétique de <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/staline" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Staline</a>, entraîna le bannissement de la génétique au nom de l’idéologie <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/communiste" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#communiste</a><br>[...]<br>Sur <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lyssenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lyssenko</a>, il y a peu d’archives.<br>[...]<br><a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/trofimlyssenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TrofimLyssenko</a> est à part. C’est un <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/agronome" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#agronome</a> de base qui, grâce à <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/staline" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Staline</a>, arrive à dominer la biologie en <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/unionsoviétique" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UnionSoviétique</a> et à faire interdire la génétique jugée "bourgeoise"<br></blockquote>Je n'ai pas encore vu ce qu'en dit précisément le documentaire, peut-être que les propos racontent une histoire plus honnête. Dans tous les cas je recommande très fortement le papier « <a href="https://agrarianstudies.macmillan.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/papers/TaugerAgrarianStudies.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pavel Pantelimonovich Luk’ianenko and the Origins of the Soviet Green Revolution</a> » présenté au « Second International Workshop on Lysenkoism », en 2012 ! Par l'historien <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/marktauger" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MarkTauger</a>, étatsunien ( <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/westvirginiauniversity" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WestVirginiaUniversity</a> ) russophone, non connu pour être marxiste, et reconnu comme expert de l'histoire de l'agriculture russe.<br><br>Je ne cite ci-dessous que sa conclusion, mais le détail est tout aussi intéressant, notamment concernant la récente <a href="https://forum.afis.org/viewtopic.php?p=54194#p54194" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">« furie anti-science » qu'est devenue la campagne pro-« Holodomor »</a>, soit-disant « génocide par la faim ukrainien » en 1932-33 (appelée « <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/holodomor" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Holodomor</a> » uniquement d'ailleurs depuis la <a href="https://forum.afis.org/viewtopic.php?p=54149#p54149" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">seconde vague de propagande mensongère issue d' </a><a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/harvard" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Harvard</a> durant les années #Reagan) :<br><blockquote><strong>[F]. Conclusions</strong><br><br>The work of <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a> and certain other grain breeders led to an explosion of research on HYVs in <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/russia" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Russia</a> from the 1960s onward, as well as substantial genetics research and greatly improved education that began even before <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lysenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lysenko</a>’s removal from power. These topics, however, lie outside the scope of this article. (109) <u>This study of <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a> challenges the prevailing view that <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lysenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lysenko</a> held back Soviet genetics for a generation. While certainly during the heyday of <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lysenkoism" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lysenkoism</a>, the <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/soviet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Soviet</a> regime victimized many excellent <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/soviet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Soviet</a> geneticists and wasted money and time on fraudulent Lysenkoists’ “research,” many other scientists conducted valid, substantial, and important work—particularly in the area of plant breeding.</u> <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a> was not the only agricultural scientist who did such research in these years, but his work had more national and international significance than that of any other <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/soviet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Soviet</a> agricultural scientist in this period.<br><br>This work differed greatly from the conventional view of scientific research in the time of <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lysenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lysenko</a>: <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a>’s work began before <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lysenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lysenko</a>’s rise and continued despite his dominance. <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a>’s work relied substantially on plant varieties from outside the <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/ussr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USSR</a>, in many cases brought into the <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/ussr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USSR</a> through the work of <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/nikolaivavilov" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NikolaiVavilov</a>. He also relied on conventional principles of genetics, including the guidelines for plant breeding published by <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/vavilov" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vavilov</a>, as well as some breeding theories and techniques from outside the <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/ussr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USSR</a>. In particular he and his co-workers independently sought and achieved the same goals as the Italians around <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/strampelli" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Strampelli</a> in the early 20th century and <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/borlaug" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Borlaug</a> in the <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/greenrevolution" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GreenRevolution</a> of the 1950s-1960s.<br><br><a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a>’s work during <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lysenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lysenko</a>’s time and afterwards produced several extremely important wheat varieties that had the same characteristics as the <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/greenrevolution" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GreenRevolution</a> varieties created by <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/borlaug" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Borlaug</a>. <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a>’s Bezostaia-1, a semi-dwarf rust resistant HYV earned the highest praise from European and American breeders including <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/borlaug" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Borlaug</a> as one of the best of the HYVs. This finding thus goes beyond even <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/krementsov" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Krementsov</a>’s points about scientists’ evasion of <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lysenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lysenko</a>. The work of <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a> and his colleagues, more than simply continuing previous genetics-based work in plant breeding, achieved breakthroughs that put it at the forefront of world wheat breeding, both in their methods and their results. Because of the accomplishments of <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a> and his co-workers in <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/krasnodar" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Krasnodar</a>, a post-Soviet Russian symposium on breeding of wheat and triticale commemorating <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lukianenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lukianenko</a> was entitled “The Green Revolution of P. P. Luk’ianenko.” (111) Thus despite <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lysenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lysenko</a>, Soviet agronomists and <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/agriculture" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#agriculture</a> thus participated in the international <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/greenrevolution" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GreenRevolution</a> under <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/lysenko" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lysenko</a>’s dominance as well as afterwards.<br></blockquote><br>Les principaux travaux de <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/marktauger" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MarkTauger</a> sont traduits en français depuis 2017 dans le livre « <a href="https://editionsdelga.fr/portfolio/mark-tauger/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Famine et Transformation Agricole en URSS</a> ».<br><br><a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.autogeree.net/tag/histoiresurarchives" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HistoireSurArchives</a>