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JunoI've been using Tridactyl[1] for a long time now for keyboard-driven vi bindings in the browser and yesterday decided to check out the alternatives, thinking maybe they provided some interesting features too.I looked them all up: Vimium, Vimium C, Vimmatic, SurfingKeys and the result is: I am in awe of how advanced Tridactyl is in comparison to all of them.Native messaging*, comprehensive ex command mode for commands and settings with live-previewed completions; hint-based visual selection, copying and focus; support for local filesystem text-based configuration; binding sequential browser actions to custom commands; tab group commands; actually launching (neo)vim to edit text areas; ...to name a few![1] <a href="https://tridactyl.xyz/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://tridactyl.xyz/</a>* do bear in mind the security implications of native messaging, as noted by the developers themselves, but you can have most of the functionality without it<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/LibreWolf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LibreWolf</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Tridactyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tridactyl</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Vim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vim</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Neovim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Neovim</a>

dot ·J’aimerais réinstaller une de ces extensions <a href="https://mastodon.tedomum.net/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> permettant de le contrôler au clavier "à la Vim".Quelle extension ? <a href="https://mastodon.tedomum.net/tags/Vimium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vimium</a> ? Vimium C ? <a href="https://mastodon.tedomum.net/tags/Tridactyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tridactyl</a> ? Autre ?

Pavel Korytov :emacs:☮️I think I'm liking <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/ZenBrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ZenBrowser</a>.It's basically <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> but with vertical tabs, workspaces, and splits (and tab groups on the roadmap). After using it for a couple of days, I do feel like it's a better approach if the screen allows it. Splits aren't as necessary with a tiling WM, but still nice to have.All my Firefox extensions work except for Firefox Color, which I used to generate a Firefox theme from my Emacs theme. I'll look into the browser's own theming mechanism if I stick with it; for now, there's a colorscheme which is close enough to my preferred `ef-duo-light'.The browser is squarely mouse-driven out-of-the-box, but all the added actions (splits, compact mode, etc.) can be bound to keys. Even <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Tridactyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tridactyl</a> seems to work without an issue, although I won't go through the pain of configuring the native messenger in Flatpak. I'll probably try to configure <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Vimium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vimium</a>, which would interfere less with the rest of the browser.My largest doubt is about the project itself, though. It is not a fork but a collection of patches against the Firefox repo; there are 102 .patch files as of now. This is similar to <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Librewolf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Librewolf</a>, which, IIRC, had trouble keeping up with the upstream even with two core devs (until Dec 2023). Zen has one core developer. So, time will tell how sustainable the approach is.Also, the repository weighs ~0.5GB even when cloned with `--depth=1'. I gave up on the full clone after it downloaded 1.2GB while still being at 0%. Something isn't right there.<a href="https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/tree/main" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/tree/main</a>

R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:<a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> users: <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/tridactyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tridactyl</a> vs <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/vimium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vimium</a>. What say you? I like vimium (C) a lot, but does Tridactyl have features I'm missing out on?

gholk<a href="https://mastodon.social/@bamboombibbitybop" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bamboombibbitybop</a> <a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/@neil" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@neil</a> If you write js, I would recommand <a href="https://g0v.social/tags/tridactyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tridactyl</a> , which is much more powerful (and steep in learning curve)In <a href="https://g0v.social/tags/vimium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vimium</a> , you can bind key-strokes to vimium commands; in tridactyl, you can bind key-strokes to tridactyl commands *and arbitrary js code*.You can bind keys even in textarea or textbox. You can define minor mode.But the tridactyl is far from perfect. There are tons of bug/issue on github, and you are very likely to face some if you use tridactyl a lot.

young man yells at the cloudjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjIf you're a diehard <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/vim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vim</a> user, you need to install <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Tridactyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tridactyl</a> or <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Vimium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vimium</a> for Firefox. It's on Chrome, too, but stop using Chrome. Use <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> for maximum enjoyment when browsing the world-wide web.

Hyde 📷 🖋 :debian:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@LinuxAndYarn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@LinuxAndYarn</a> I use <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/vim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vim</a> keybindings in my browser with <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/tridactyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tridactyl</a> :)

Jef AllbrightSome <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/FavoriteTools" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FavoriteTools</a><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/perplexity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#perplexity</a>.ai for thoughtful web queries. (Shows reasoning and references.)<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Vim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vim</a> for <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/TextEditing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TextEditing</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> w/ <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Tridactyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tridactyl</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/uBlockOrigin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#uBlockOrigin</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Raindrop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Raindrop</a> for <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Tagging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tagging</a> and <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Bookmarking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bookmarking</a> web pages<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Inoreader" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Inoreader</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/RSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RSS</a> reader<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Pandoc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Pandoc</a> for document creation/conversion<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ubuntu</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> (even if it's running under Windows <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/wsl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#wsl</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Python</a> w/ <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Jupyter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jupyter</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Pandas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Pandas</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Matplotlib" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Matplotlib</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/numpy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#numpy</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/scipy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#scipy</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/plac" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#plac</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/TheBrain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheBrain</a> for <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/KnowledgeManagement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KnowledgeManagement</a> (but considering moving to <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Obsidian</a>)<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/MoonReader" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MoonReader</a> for ebooks and PDFs<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/RolandFP90" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RolandFP90</a> and A-88 for <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/piano" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#piano</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/transcribe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#transcribe</a> for working through <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/music" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#music</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/video" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#video</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Leatherman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Leatherman</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/SkeletoolCX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SkeletoolCX</a> for EDC multitool<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Benchmade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Benchmade</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Griptilian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Griptilian</a> when I need more of an actual knife<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Signal</a> for <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/messaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#messaging</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mastodon</a> for social media<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/antennapod" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#antennapod</a> for podcasts<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/streamlightwedgext" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#streamlightwedgext</a> for <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/EDC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EDC</a> flashlight

Hyde 📷 🖋 :debian:<a href="https://bitbang.social/@profoundlynerdy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@profoundlynerdy</a> What's the pros over something like <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/tridactyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tridactyl</a> or the other <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/vimium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vimium</a> ?

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