@kkarhan @hyc @voxel
My point was that Ethereum staking can be run on a NUC or even on a Rasperry Pi.
There are no ASICs here. So:

"#Ethereum uses #ASIC|s which makes it way more polluting due to these being useless for anything else."
is completely false. misinformation.

meanwhile:
" the only thing that moving #Ethereum from #PoW to #PoS achieved is raising the wall to make it harder, more expensive amd less attractive for #SmallInvestors to fiddle with it."
Is also demonstrably false.

@cobordism @hyc @voxel It's called #mathematics, because #ASIC|s are simply manufactured #eWaste by virtue of being non-reuseable nor upcycle-able.

• A #CPU or #GPU can at least be #reused for different tasks and even #upcycled to be used in #consumer chassis with an adequate cooling system.

Your reply indicates that you ain't aware of fundamentals like what an ASIC is, that producing ICs is inherently bad for the envoirment and that these are just bad per concept, thus you've disqualified yourself with the saneist reply from any discussion.

• I'll give you a timeout of a few days. Feel free to sincerely apologize after that...

@cobordism @hyc @voxel IMHO the only thing that moving #Ethereum from #PoW to #PoS achieved is raising the wall to make it harder, more expensive amd less attractive for #SmallInvestors to fiddle with it.

• #NotFinancialAdvice but I would've always disrecommended that espechally after #Buterin et. al. decided to #Backroll due to them and others having been #HornyForMoney and wanting to pull funds from #TheDAO.

Demondtrably, #EthereumClassic would at least be more trustworthy, alas that's an Opinion based off 'vibes'…

• Whether the PoS transition did save energy is debateable since #Ethereum uses #ASIC|s which makes it way more polluting due to these being useless for anything else. #Scalpers are shit but at the very least a #CPU or #GPU can be reused elsewhere…

@hyc @voxel also #PoS inherently rewards rich users and concentrates power even more than the nature of #PoW would, as running a #Monero #node or #miner doesn't require expensive custom #ASIC|s that are going to become manufactured #eWaste down the line and can't be repurposed for anything but being the noisiest and most expesive space heaters!

https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114638656071829798

• Or to put it into perspective: PoS implementations like #Ethereum only rewarded already abdurdly rich capital holders and wiped everyone else out due to every PoS mechanism demanding a minimum of staked coins AND even if it didn't all of them inherently reward staking more with a higher "rent" / "reward"!

Case in point: There are only ugly and filthy solutions to that problem and Monero chose the "least worst" they could: Shure it still has problems but those are at least fully known, understood and working as in 'communities can outnumber single rich entities'...