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There's no spice in #brevity - about the #insufficiency of #shortened #media

I would like to take a "brief" look at a #media #phenomenon. It's about the fact that “brevity is the spice of life”. During my #studies in #SocialMedia, I noticed a special form of #reductionism (in the literal sense, however), which is already close to #emptying of meaning or #dilution of #content. Just like this text ;-)

philosophies.de/index.php/2024

There's no spice in #brevity - about the #insufficiency of #shortened #media

I would like to take a "brief" look at a #media #phenomenon. It's about the fact that “brevity is the spice of life”. During my #studies in #SocialMedia, I noticed a special form of #reductionism (in the literal sense, however), which is already close to #emptying of meaning or #dilution of #content. Just like this text ;-)

philosophies.de/index.php/2024

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The limits of mechanistic dogma are very examples of the restrictiveness of self-imposed methodologies that fabricate non-existent artificial ‘limitations’ on science and knowledge. The limitations are due to the nongenericity of the methods and their associated bounded microcosms.
—Aloisius H. Louie, More Than Life Itself: A Synthetic Continuation in Relational Biology
#relationalbiology #biology #reductionism #science #knowledge
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The reductionistic claim bears the false witness that if one has enough such [mechanistic physiochemical] surrogates, and knows enough about them, then the biological organization will follow as a corollary. It is not just a technical matter of the impossibility in human terms of acquiring a sufficiently large collection of surrogates. The inherent impredicativity of complexity cannot be analytically resolved. A typical example is that one cannot solve a classical N -body problem by solving N one-body problems.
—Aloisius H. Louie, More Than Life Itself: A Synthetic Continuation in Relational Biology
#reductionism #relationalbiology #artificiallife #life
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”Geometry, for example, is a convenient abstraction; it is not concrete reality. … Reductionism is a method, not an ontology. An ethical corollary: when we realize every entity feels at some scale, we might rethink certain experiments that cause suffering.”
—Matthew Segall, Prehensions, Propositions, and the Cosmological Commons
#abstraction #reductionism #ethics
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@ScienceCommunicator

We have 2 important considerations regarding this topic, IMO.

One is that we are not separate from the world we study. That we must always allow for interactions we find in similar subjects external to us to be operating in similar fashion inside of our own #systems. That is, we cannot build our models separately, with the outcome of purely phenomenological & physiological perspectives. Of course, where the similarities are few, those unique views are necessary. Consciousness would be one area where our experience should be included & weighed heavy in the model.

The other comes from #reductionism, and the need to incorporate boundaries, phase changes, and other #emergent phenomena that won't agree with the #linear summation during the reconstruction of the parts we identified on the way down.

So going down the chain of molecules, elements, and atoms, for example, is not different from examining #evolution connections, or life itself. There is no reverse at some points, and even where there is time reversal #symmetry, the paths are not always direct, 1:1 increments. (see 'islands of stability', for example)

We have a bad tendency of always ending up framing it in black or white terms, like " #nature vs nurture", when the actual situations nearly always require both.

One of the unfortunate elements of the #scientific method centered on reduction is that the first impression (indeed very strong) comes in the results section, from the questions asked at the start. Those have been stripped of all #context variation & complexity, and that is where it leaves off in most cases. For the vast majority of humans, the deeper layers are never seen or explored; the simplified meme is what propagates most prolifically.

Our mission, should we choose to accept it, is to layer the #complexity back in, one layer at a time, and continue our pursuit of higher #knowledge. This will require some modifications to our current system!

We have lived with a world view dominated by reductionism. Yet recently, S. Hawking has written an article entitled “Gödel and the End of Physics.” His observations raise the possibility that we should question our foundations. Core to this is reductionism itself. In turn reductionism finds its roots in Aristotle’s model of scientific explanation as deductive inference. All men are mortal. Socrates is a man. Therefore, Socrates is mortal. With Newton’s laws in differential form, reductionism snaps into place, for given initial and boundary conditions, integration of those equations is exactly deduction. Aristotle’s ‘efficient cause’ becomes mathematized as deduction.
—Stuart Kauffman
#reductionism

"We see the regularity that we do, in fact, wherever we look, not so much because we “discovered” the regularities of nature. It is more because we rearranged the substances of our world into regular, governable, objects of a sort not found in nature. We have done this so well that it is hard to imagine not finding mechanical regularity all around us."

#HalMorris

ribbonfarm.com/2017/01/12/cann

ribbonfarm · Cannon Balls, Plate Tectonics, and Invisible ElephantsFor our pre-technical ancestors, the clockwork at the bottom of the material world was so clothed in messiness that hardly a trace of it appeared on the surface.  But you could say that three expos…
…the “modern scientific worldview” is predicated on a number of…hypotheses about the nature of reality. These assumptions, which were first proposed by some of the pre-Socratic philosophers…became associated…with classical physics. They include materialism—the notion that matter is all that truly exists…—and reductionism, the idea that complex things can be understood by reducing them to the interactions of their parts… Other assumptions include mechanism—the idea that the world works like a machine, determinism—the notion that future states of physical or biological systems can be predicted from current states, and naturalism—the idea that only natural laws and forces operate in the world…
—Mario Beauregard, in Is Consciousness Primary? #materialism #reductionism #mechanism #determinism #naturalism

In physics reductionism by itself doesn't work. Think of renormalization in quantum mechanics. You run into infinities, loops, endless self-interactions, etc. So many of the natural science have come to terms with emergence as the norm. Yet, biologists have a difficult time weening themselves off of what Dennett calls "greedy reductionism" to the point where they think that's what it means to explain things. #philosophyofscience #science #philosophy #reductionism #emergence