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You said it yourself, that post was very much edited.

The big thing I dislike about Linux Support Forums is how they tend to gate keep and even shame people. Then when someone finally has had enough, and they call people out, those same people will go back, edit their post, and make it seem like you're the bad guy with their now, newly sensible and newly reasonable comments.

You'll notice (in my post history), I'm still having a few minor issues, but am I being helped? No. Anyone, right now, could shut me up, and shut me down, but folks rather go on with the nonsense, which only further validates my claim that AI can be more helpful.

And as you said, even after they edited their post, they still could not help themselves.

#NixOs #Nix #Linux #SupportForums #Forums

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In fact, the NixOS Community, continues to prove exactly why AI will replace Support Forums.

An AI is not going to troll you, or judge you, or criticize you. An AI will answer your questions, and not gate keep you.

Yes, sometimes that AI is not always correct, but neither are people. At least the AI will point you in the right direction.

#Linux #SupportForums #Forums #NixOS

Quoi de neuf ? Mes 12 dernières heures de veille ont été englouties par du #scrolling et de la lecture de posts et de #forums tout pourris, pourquoi ?

Tsss ça me rend malade de voir ce gâchis de temps, tout ça pour ne pas être plus reposée, plus épanouie ni divertie. Le moins qu'on puisse dire c'est que je suis pas fière de moi. Faut que je me sorte de ces comportements nuls mais c'est dur. C'est donc ça l'addiction ?

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I am likely going to be banned from the NixOs Community Forum, as I posted this as my reply to someone. - I do not even care.

Why?

If you look at my post history, I solved my own problems. All I ever got was people criticizing and never actually providing solutions. Which is what most people looking of help want - A solution (or at best a working tip, beyond a vague cryptic statement).

#NixOs #Nix #Forums #SupportForums #Foss

The golden rule for support forums should be, if you have nothing to actually add to help someone achieve their goal, then you should shut the fuck up.

If all you're going to do is criticize someone's efforts, without offering a working solution, you should shut the fuck up.

If you add no value to the conversation, you most certainly should, shut the fuck up.

#Linux #Forums #SupportForums

Topic thumbnails, uploads, and media display

There have been some scattered feedback on a change I made for v4.0.0 that caught some people off-guard: Uploaded media is now shown in addition to topic thumbnails.

I'll start with why this change was made, and then solicit feedback.

The why

v4.0.0 introduced ActivityPub integration into NodeBB. This added dimension meant that content was consumed in a manner that was similar, but unfamiliar to NodeBB, and so much of the work involved normalizing that data into a format that made sense. (As an aside, I tell people that that's pretty much 99% of my job — glueing together APIs. I jest, but it's also basically true.)

One of those unfamiliar aspects was uploaded media in the form of attachments. NodeBB had discrete concepts of inline media and topic thumbnails, but attachments were something different entirely. Attachments were not inlined in the text (they tended to be added before or after the main content), and thumbnails were images only, while attachments could be lots of other things.

The second part was that a lot of the content I received relied on media to do the heavy lifting. Oftentimes the text would be minimal and in response to the attachment. After all, a picture's worth a thousand words.

Given those two things, I allowed NodeBB to consume and store attachments separately, and updated the topic thumbnail retrieval logic to pull media from both post attachments and inline media. That retrieval logic is what governs what you see next to the title. I also decided on the all-in approach because while NodeBB has multiple ways of slotting media, majority of ActivityPub software generally only uses attachments. This means both inline media and topic thumbnails were unceremoniously shoved into attachments when federating outward. There is movement toward changing this, and so this rationale may no longer make sense today.

I initially did have concerns that perhaps this would dilute the meaning and specificity of the "topic thumbnail", but I also wagered that the UX improvement of promoting any and all media found would be of greater benefit.

Your turn — feedback!

Maybe I'm wrong!

  • Perhaps the media row is best used to showcase topic thumbnails and post attachments only (not inlined media.)
  • Perhaps a configurable option would appease all folks (although I'm usually loathe to add options purely for that reason.)

community.nodebb.org/post/1046

NodeBB Community · Topic thumbnails, uploads, and media displayThere have been some scattered feedback on a change I made for v4.0.0 that caught some people off-guard: Uploaded media is now shown in addition to topic thu...

The silver lining of the "AI" hype is the increased aversion that more and more people are having to the overly shiny, phony mainstream internet and how all of that is pushing more underground, independent weirdo creators to thrive and to make REAL things of human value on the web, be they blogs, personal websites, indie services, or back to the small forums of old.

The upcoming possibility of browsing to remote federated categories/communities has me thinking about interesting use cases for it.

Note that Lemmy, PieFed, mBin, and other "community-centric" software already do support this, so it's nothing new, I'm actually playing catch-up.

One interesting use case centers around NodeBB's /unread route, which tracks new topics since your last visit. Since ever, and even now in v4, this is only for local categories, but if you're able to "subscribe" to a remote category, then we could enable use of this page for that content too.

Think about waking up and seeing a self-curated feed of new content from your subscribed communities! There are some interesting parallels to RSS here, too.

What other forum-centric use cases do you think would be enhanced by the ability to browse remote categories?

Today's the day! :tada:

After nearly a full year in development, NodeBB v4.0.0 has landed, bringing federation between NodeBB instances (and a connection to the wider fediverse of social media) to forum software.

Fedi-what?

Fediverse! Here's a TechCrunch primer about it, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. All you need to know is that NodeBB plugs in to a wider social network so that you don't have to cultivate an audience, they're already there.

The genesis

It was back in mid-2023 when I had the initial idea of interconnecting NodeBB forums. Back then, I had far smaller ambitions... I wanted a singular NodeBB to be able to communicate with other forums running NodeBB. To do that, we'd need to build out a centralized service to act as a bridge between instances, and corresponding slim clients on individual installs to consume the relayed data. At the time, concept like decentralization were not even part of my thought process.

It was during this period when I was doing my research that I stumbled on Mastodon, and later, ActivityPub, the protocol that powers it all. Since then, it's been one wild ride getting NodeBB to speak the same language.

Funding

Soon after dipping my toes into all that Mastodon had to offer, I discovered the NLNet Foundation, and their corresponding fund — NGI Zero Core. With the promise of funding, NodeBB could fully commit to implementing the protocol in short order, instead of piece by piece over time. We sent in an application and were delighted to be approved for the August 2023 call.

Their funding was instrumental in providing the financial stability to experiment with ActivityPub and to participate in developer circles, such as the SWICG, FediForum, and much more.

The fund continues to operate, perhaps you could benefit, or donate to the cause. It has certainly made a difference to NodeBB.

Federate, or not, it's your choice

NodeBB v4 comes shipped with the capability to interact with other NodeBB forums and any other ActivityPub-speaking software, right out of the box. We opted to make this a core feature instead of a plugin, since there were many changes made to core to support even the concept of accepting content from outside itself.

To that end, any users upgrading from v3.x will automatically have federation disabled, in order to reduce surprise. Any new forums will federate automatically.

You can turn federation on and off (and adjust some other fun toggles) directly from ACP > Settings > Federation (ActivityPub).

Even after turning federation on, how you use it shapes how well connected you will be. There is no centralized authority artificially boosting your content, so the name of the game is establishing two-way follow relationships to other sites.

The ActivityPub Equalizer

We're not alone in this journey to interoperate with other decentralized services. We're not even the only forum software to attempt to do so.

  • Discourse has a working plugin.
  • Ghost is building out in the open.

I specifically highlight these two because they both started in the early 2010s, same as NodeBB. It's always been a bit of an informal competition between us, and we always checked in on what the others were doing (growth-wise, pricing-wise, etc.) Truth be told, I don't think the ghost team ever really noticed NodeBB, but I digress...

The funny thing about ActivityPub is that at the end of the day, the overarching goal of seamless communication breaks down any barriers between competing organizations.

NodeBB and Discourse have been vying for the exact same market share (forums, community-building, self-started or enterprise) for over 10 years, and it was only after ActivityPub came around that the dev teams even started talking to one another.

Funny how that works.

So how does it all work?

Our documentation portal has been updated with the latest information about the ActivityPub functionality in v4.

If you have any questions about how it works or how to configure some aspect of it, please don't hesitate to reach out in the corresponding v4 support thread.

If you run NodeBB, the quickest way to see this in action is to upgrade to v4, and then paste this post's URL into your search bar. It should show up automatically, and you should be able to read and reply to it, directly from your own forum. Neat!

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